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Wednesday, March 26, 2008
Things to change
Please post what you think needs to be changed in the department. Remember to be polite and respect the views of others
11 comments:
Anonymous
said...
Hey joe, Wasn't quite sure where to post something of this nature, but I have a brand new Fireground Stategies book still in the wrapping. This book is required for Stategies and Tactics 1 and 2, if anyone is interested please get a hold of me. Thanks. Mike Bell
i feel there is enough to do in the morning without having to wash the trucks....especially on Mon, Wed, Fri, and Sat.....Also i feel those who dirty the trucks should clean them....kinda like pickin up after yourself...just my 2 pennies
"Should Chief Collins have an all-inclusive meeting?"
When did the rank and file take over budgetary issues? When did we start telling Chiefs who they should and shouldn't have meetings with? Perhaps Chief Collins' new tenure would be better served if we lined up behind him in support and let him make his own decisions based on his experience, education and wisdom. I certainly believe him to be more than capable and willingly follow his leadership and direction.
Since I've brought it up, as an incentive-receiving spec ops personnel and more importantly a member of the OSCFR family I found myself taken back by the spec ops question. First and foremost due to its fundamental divisiveness. Secondly because we should never voluntarily give up programs. And lastly because most obstacles to the spec ops program have come from mismanagement more than funding.
Naivety would guide me to leave out any mention of interpersonal feelings; however I would be posting under false pretenses. Having split my time in both spec ops houses I have been fully exposed to some other's feelings toward spec ops and the personnel assigned to it. To put is short and not-so-sweet I've heard about the "42 God complex". To those of you who support your brothers and sisters, regardless of position, assignment or station--I thank you and hope for you to maintain the strength to forge ahead and stay true to what is right regardless of criticism, jealousy or petty selfishness. To those of you who would deride, knock down or otherwise negatively influence others--allow me to point out your fundamental flaw. I, and others like me, don't give a rat's a$$ what you think of me, my crew or my position. We don't do what we do for you; our judge comes from a much higher authority than that. We know what we bring to the table. I'll stack my old crew and my new crew against any. Some may perceive that as egotistical. They would read that the wrong way. The problem is not that there are crews that believe that. The problem is that EVERY crew doesn't believe that. Now that is a goal worth striving for--not the elimination of programs and/or people who aren't afraid to raise the level of expectation.
I truly appreciate the time and efforts put into this website/forum and see it as a valuable and informative avenue. But I also see it as a dangerous slope on which we tread. In particular the ability to utilize this forum to anonymously lob criticisms, maliciously ignite division or publicly wrestle with authority.
There is a lot of power in our attitude. "With great power comes great responsibility." Stan Lee said that in Spiderman. Comic book hero wisdom that speaks volumes to real life heroes.
Some should remember why they joined the fire service in the first place, we all know it isn't for the money. Instead of wondering who will wash trucks how about think how not to be an a## kisser and back each other not back stab each other.
The oncoming shift washing the trucks is a very bad idea. If you keep the truck clean at all times, which is what we are suppose to do, cleaning it in the morning should be no big deal.
To the "anonymous" ranter of a## kissers and back stabbers:
Could you please do us all a favor the next time you have an "early morning thought" and have a cup of coffee, do some yoga and then kindly find something constructive to do with your anger. With all due respect, I'll take an a##-kisser and back stabber over an anonymous complainer any day. For the simple reason that I know who and where those people are. At least they have the courage to a## kiss and/or back stab for all the world to see and judge.
To the "anonymous" who posted about washing the trucks:
While I disagree with your suggestion, I commend you for posting it and should you wish to debate and sway my opinion, I welcome the discussion. Do not let simple-minded and emotional rants disuede you. Spite should never be used in place of logic in a discussion. And it should not be used to get others to stop bringing ideas to the table. This forum is here for all ideas, big AND small. Keep the faith.
I had my coffee, and I agree it was a bad choice of words sorry. I do not wish to debate with you or anyone else. I am not looking for a place to type angry rants, again I am sorry!
Trucks being washed in the mornings by the crew is made easier if the trucks are kept up with as much as possible during the shift.
Keep the faith brother. We all need to vent. This place is probably a lot healthier than others we choose. We vent, someone else reply vents, so on and so forth. What's a little blood among family, right? Always remember though, the only way it will get better is by us. We have to depend on ourselves and each other. If we lose hope, that which gives us cause to keep striving, then we've lost everything.
Well, Here we go. Before you go balistic, please read and think about with an open mind everything I have to say. As far as washing the trucks goes, I believe it would be better for the oncoming crew to do so. The reason I like the idea is that during standard time it is still pretty dark out and I still have to come in and wash, (rewash) the trucks. After monday checkout the trucks have to be washed. It's an hour either way so let's do it when there's plenty of light. Now as far as keeping the trucks clean, I appluade you for doing it but, it has been my experience that there is someone that will still not be pleased with the truck you pass-on. A wise man once told me "The worst shift on the department is the one you relieve".
11 comments:
Hey joe,
Wasn't quite sure where to post something of this nature, but I have a brand new Fireground Stategies book still in the wrapping. This book is required for Stategies and Tactics 1 and 2, if anyone is interested please get a hold of me. Thanks.
Mike Bell
I think that the on coming crews should be the ones who wash the trucks in the morning, not the off going...what does everyone think to that idea?
i feel there is enough to do in the morning without having to wash the trucks....especially on Mon, Wed, Fri, and Sat.....Also i feel those who dirty the trucks should clean them....kinda like pickin up after yourself...just my 2 pennies
When did the clown acts start running the circus?
"Should spec ops be funded?"
"Should Chief Collins have an all-inclusive meeting?"
When did the rank and file take over budgetary issues? When did we start telling Chiefs who they should and shouldn't have meetings with? Perhaps Chief Collins' new tenure would be better served if we lined up behind him in support and let him make his own decisions based on his experience, education and wisdom. I certainly believe him to be more than capable and willingly follow his leadership and direction.
Since I've brought it up, as an incentive-receiving spec ops personnel and more importantly a member of the OSCFR family I found myself taken back by the spec ops question. First and foremost due to its fundamental divisiveness. Secondly because we should never voluntarily give up programs. And lastly because most obstacles to the spec ops program have come from mismanagement more than funding.
Naivety would guide me to leave out any mention of interpersonal feelings; however I would be posting under false pretenses. Having split my time in both spec ops houses I have been fully exposed to some other's feelings toward spec ops and the personnel assigned to it. To put is short and not-so-sweet I've heard about the "42 God complex". To those of you who support your brothers and sisters, regardless of position, assignment or station--I thank you and hope for you to maintain the strength to forge ahead and stay true to what is right regardless of criticism, jealousy or petty selfishness. To those of you who would deride, knock down or otherwise negatively influence others--allow me to point out your fundamental flaw. I, and others like me, don't give a rat's a$$ what you think of me, my crew or my position. We don't do what we do for you; our judge comes from a much higher authority than that. We know what we bring to the table. I'll stack my old crew and my new crew against any. Some may perceive that as egotistical. They would read that the wrong way. The problem is not that there are crews that believe that. The problem is that EVERY crew doesn't believe that. Now that is a goal worth striving for--not the elimination of programs and/or people who aren't afraid to raise the level of expectation.
I truly appreciate the time and efforts put into this website/forum and see it as a valuable and informative avenue. But I also see it as a dangerous slope on which we tread. In particular the ability to utilize this forum to anonymously lob criticisms, maliciously ignite division or publicly wrestle with authority.
There is a lot of power in our attitude. "With great power comes great responsibility." Stan Lee said that in Spiderman. Comic book hero wisdom that speaks volumes to real life heroes.
Some should remember why they joined the fire service in the first place, we all know it isn't for the money. Instead of wondering who will wash trucks how about think how not to be an a## kisser and back each other not back stab each other.
Just an early morning thought.
The oncoming shift washing the trucks is a very bad idea. If you keep the truck clean at all times, which is what we are suppose to do, cleaning it in the morning should be no big deal.
To the "anonymous" ranter of a## kissers and back stabbers:
Could you please do us all a favor the next time you have an "early morning thought" and have a cup of coffee, do some yoga and then kindly find something constructive to do with your anger. With all due respect, I'll take an a##-kisser and back stabber over an anonymous complainer any day. For the simple reason that I know who and where those people are. At least they have the courage to a## kiss and/or back stab for all the world to see and judge.
To the "anonymous" who posted about washing the trucks:
While I disagree with your suggestion, I commend you for posting it and should you wish to debate and sway my opinion, I welcome the discussion. Do not let simple-minded and emotional rants disuede you. Spite should never be used in place of logic in a discussion. And it should not be used to get others to stop bringing ideas to the table. This forum is here for all ideas, big AND small. Keep the faith.
I had my coffee, and I agree it was a bad choice of words sorry. I do not wish to debate with you or anyone else. I am not looking for a place to type angry rants, again I am sorry!
Trucks being washed in the mornings by the crew is made easier if the trucks are kept up with as much as possible during the shift.
Stay safe.
Keep the faith brother. We all need to vent. This place is probably a lot healthier than others we choose. We vent, someone else reply vents, so on and so forth. What's a little blood among family, right? Always remember though, the only way it will get better is by us. We have to depend on ourselves and each other. If we lose hope, that which gives us cause to keep striving, then we've lost everything.
Well,
Here we go. Before you go balistic, please read and think about with an open mind everything I have to say. As far as washing the trucks goes, I believe it would be better for the oncoming crew to do so. The reason I like the idea is that during standard time it is still pretty dark out and I still have to come in and wash, (rewash) the trucks. After monday checkout the trucks have to be washed. It's an hour either way so let's do it when there's plenty of light. Now as far as keeping the trucks clean, I appluade you for doing it but, it has been my experience that there is someone that will still not be pleased with the truck you pass-on. A wise man once told me "The worst shift on the department is the one you relieve".
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